It just goes on, and on, and on with racism. Have hospitals that are shut down. You have red lining that affect black people. Today, You have USD, right ? The farm subsidy program, which wasn't allocating funds to black people. So yes, although you might want to say, And one of the most amazing things about Barack Obama was that we believe we were in this post racial society. We are not. And so my POI point to you is that every ounce of change that we've ever had in this country has been because black blood flow through the streets. You don't have the Sixty four Sixty Five Voting Rights Act without the Edmund Pettus bridge, You don't have the Voting Rights Act. You don't have Fair Housing Act without King being assassinated. We don't even take the Confederate flag down without nine people being killed in a church, right ? We don't talk talk about criminal justice reform without a black man being killed in the streets. And so when we are articulating our views to you about the remnants thereof, I understand your point that we are not shackled or in bondage like we were in slavery. However, we have never deconstructed the remnants which still affect us. I also want to add Bhatia, vertical pulling, but batches just work just fine too, Isn't that's actual matter ? I mean, when you're talking about a time period in which there was the first black president elected in the country. There was, ah, the Mother Emanuel massacre that happened in his. During his presidency, which was last I checked about racism and white supremacy. So there have been moments when we have actually, correctly in this country, grappled with those very things because they've been put on the agenda by our fellow Americans. So I don't understand the desire to try to avoid that when it's not as if it's gone. I mean, people are literally still killing people in this country. Yeah, because of their. The color of their skin, and suddenly we should just move past it. I think we've had more than just moments where we have had massive leaps forward in the way we treat each other in this country. I mean, I agree with Bochum. Where we sit today is vastly different than where we sat in the nineteen sixties or the Nineteen Twenties or the. You know, ain't anybody disputing And it's not even close. It's. I don't know, but I don't think anybody's disputing that. I think it's just a question of. Do we need to just stop talking about it because we're not jumping rope and proposing that ? But what I do think. I do think he is proposing. And I think this is worth discussing. Is that as we go into our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, how are we presenting ourselves to the world ? Are we presenting ourselves as a country that is obsessed with our worst moment ? Or are we presenting ourselves as a country that managed to overcome our worst moment and have been improving ? Ever sound about being obsessed with our worst moment ? I mean, again, I think it's an important part. You know, this is a really important point. Nobody is saying we shouldn't talk about the brutality of slavery. That has to be front and center. But if that's all you ever show, you miss the resilience and the progress. Yes, that came after Black Americans didn't just ensure they built communities, created culture and fought for rights generation after generation. That balance is what makes the history complete. Last year seventeen million people visited the Museum for African - American history, history and culture. And I think that's an important number because part of what they saw was that this was a story about African - American resilience. This is a story about community. It is a story about democracy and triumph. But share, believe, inspire blacks, be. Have hospitals that are shut down. You have red lining that affect black people. Today, You have USD, right ? The farm subsidy program, which wasn't allocating funds to black people. So yes, although you might want to say, And one of the most amazing things about Barack Obama was that we believe we were in this post racial society. We are not. And so my POI point to you is that every ounce of change that we've ever had in this country has been because black blood flow through the streets. You don't have the Sixty four Sixty Five Voting Rights Act without the Edmund Pettus bridge, You don't have the Voting Rights Act. You don't have Fair Housing Act without King being assassinated. We don't even take the Confederate flag down without nine people being killed in a church, right ? We don't talk talk about criminal justice reform without a black man being killed in the streets. And so when we are articulating our views to you about the remnants thereof, I understand your point that we are not shackled or in bondage like we were in slavery. However, we have never deconstructed the remnants which still affect us. I also want to add Bhatia, vertical pulling, but batches just work just fine too, Isn't that's actual matter ? I mean, when you're talking about a time period in which there was the first black president elected in the country. There was, ah, the Mother Emanuel massacre that happened in his. During his presidency, which was last I checked about racism and white supremacy. So there have been moments when we have actually, correctly in this country, grappled with those very things because they've been put on the agenda by our fellow Americans. So I don't understand the desire to try to avoid that when it's not as if it's gone. I mean, people are literally still killing people in this country. Yeah, because of their. The color of their skin, and suddenly we should just move past it. I think we've had more than just moments where we have had massive leaps forward in the way we treat each other in this country. I mean, I agree with Bochum. Where we sit today is vastly different than where we sat in the nineteen sixties or the Nineteen Twenties or the. You know, ain't anybody disputing And it's not even close. It's. I don't know, but I don't think anybody's disputing that. I think it's just a question of. Do we need to just stop talking about it because we're not jumping rope and proposing that ? But what I do think. I do think he is proposing. And I think this is worth discussing. Is that as we go into our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, how are we presenting ourselves to the world ? Are we presenting ourselves as a country that is obsessed with our worst moment ? Or are we presenting ourselves as a country that managed to overcome our worst moment and have been improving ? Ever sound about being obsessed with our worst moment ? I mean, again, I think it's an important part. You know, this is a really important point. Nobody is saying we shouldn't talk about the brutality of slavery. That has to be front and center. But if that's all you ever show, you miss the resilience and the progress. Yes, that came after Black Americans didn't just ensure they built communities, created culture and fought for rights generation after generation. That balance is what makes the history complete. Last year seventeen million people visited the Museum for African - American history, history and culture. And I think that's an important number because part of what they saw was that this was a story about African - American resilience. This is a story about community. It is a story about democracy and triumph. But share, believe, inspire blacks, be.